[ham] [Rhodes22-list] Questions

[Michael Meltzer]

Yamaha make both a "regular" and a high thrust 8hp.

I was assuming you were looking at the "regular" at 83 pounds with the sailboat prop from the accessories in a long shaft. look like
a nice motor and is directly competition with the Honda 8hp. stan usually cuts the rails for an long shaft.

The 8hp high thrust seems overweight at 102 pounds even a little more that the 9.9th at 98 pounds, but the TH come in electric start
and a extra long 25 inch shaft, for the longer shaft Stan need to use extra long rails to avoid tilling.

It your call on the sails, right now the best mix is looking like a USP, 150% 110% and IMF mark II (I am sure that will start a
debate :-), since you are on a budget and want the boat on time, pick what stan has in stock. Most like it will be 175 or a 110%,
you can alway switch them out/upgrade next session.

MJM



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly@speakeasy.net>
To: "Rhodes 22 List" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Questions


> Thanks to all for information.  A few more clarifications.
>
> MJM and Bob, if you run the 9.9 the weight of the T-8 isn't likely to be
> problem, but it seems that it exceeds a weight limit I saw (once, somewhere,
> but can't find now) for the GB motor lift. Stan didn't warn me against it,
> but didn't endorse the T-8 either.  Have you had any problems with the 9.9
> on the GB lift?
>
> Also, just to be clear, is the standard 7:1 motor lift the best match for a
> 20" shaft motor?  If I got a XL (25") shaft, would I have to tilt the motor
> to clear the water with the motor lift up or would I still need to get Stan
> to extend the motor lift?
>
> With the standard GB furler, do you have to drop the furler (and forestay)
> to change sails? (thought I saved the answer to this but I can't find it)
>
> According to NOAA data, "average" wind in Boston area is 10-13 mph during
> sailing season vs. 8-10 mph for Bridgeport CT. If I had to pick *one*
> furling genoa for the next couple of years, would a 150% (if one were
> available) be more versatile than a 175%.
>
> Thanks
> Jim Connolly
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Meltzer [mailto:mjm@michaelmeltzer.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:34 PM
> > To: jbconnolly@speakeasy.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Questions
> >
> >
> > get the 8 hp Yamaha, even with the 8 their will be time that you
> > will have it WOT and still be wanting more, it look like the 6 and
> > 8 are the same motor with the 6 being "derated", they weight the
> > same, saving a few dollars in the wrong place. The Honda 8 is
> > closet match and the tilter setup on the Yamaha is better. Honda
> > have has more problems out of the box lately. what will really
> > mater will be the shop you buying it from setting up the motor
> > correctly, the cable will need to be "dialed" in right(and readjusted
> > the year after).
> >
> > I run the 9.9TH, the real advantage is the able to relocate the
> > throttle to the tiller. it also comes in a extra long shaft, alone
> > with Stan putting rails on the motor mount(an extra 6 inches)
> > means the motor can handle higher winds(bigger waves).
> >
> > Think about getting a CDI fuller, the 175% will be over powered
> > in anything above 15 knots, you want to change to a 110% on those
> > days.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly@speakeasy.net>
> > To: "Rhodes 22 List" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:44 PM
> > Subject: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Questions
> >
> >
> > > My '85 recycled in the photo will be equipped with IMF, genoa furler
> > > (presumably GB model) and 175% genoa, 7:1 motor lift, mast
> > raising system
> > > (i.e., generally similar to 2002 Boat Show Package #2).  There
> > are still a
> > > few opportunities to make choices.
> > >
> > > Boat will be sailed various places, mostly Boston, MA area bays,
> > > Salem/Marblehead area, Cape Cod, etc.  Also some lake sailing
> > in NH a week
> > > or so a year.
> > >
> > > 1.  I'm thinking about a Yamaha F6 (4-stroke) outboard, long shaft with
> > > optional high-thrust prop and generator kit.  Anybody have any input.
> > > Hondas are nice, (have one of their lawnmowers) but more money, no 6HP
> > > available.  Had good luck with Yamaha 250HP on last powerboat.
> > Unimpressed
> > > but no major complaints with Nissan 5HP 1-cyl 2-stroke on last sailboat.
> > > Nissans are available locally at lowest prices anywhere,
> > REgarding Yamaha, I
> > > know survey indicated 8-HP is most popular size.  8-HPs exceed
> > my optimal
> > > budget, and Yamaha T-8 is very heavy.
> > >
> > > 2.  Is 175% genoa the best sail for this boat and the prevailing summer
> > > winds in these parts, or should I ask Stan about availability of other
> > > sails.
> > >
> > > More questions as they occur to me.  If I've missed something,
> > let me know.
> > >
> > > Jim Connolly
> > >
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