[Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list.

Saroj saroj at pathfind.net
Mon Nov 24 20:26:50 EST 2003


Michael,

So well put.  I couldn't agree more.

Thanks,
Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list.


> here's your  dilemma peter, assuming you ment vc17, will not work for
drysail(the copper oxidizes), only fresh water and you would
> have to sand blast with walnut shells to prep, EPA will hate you for that.
Second dilemma, if the list was to become a replacement
> for people to use as a "boating" manual, with the expirations that people
will save them the time to research the answer as an
> unpaid lackey. Some people do view a list that way, give me my information
and that's it. On the other hand,  No one would bother to
> show up, people who know the answers would get little out of it.. Manuals
are boring and work is work.. Much prefer the model
> answering question while socializing with each other. Kind of like hang
out at a bar, even rummy know something about that :-)
>
>
> As west says:
> Thin Film Paints with Teflon
> Teflon additive drastically cuts surface friction and the thin film, with
its aggressive solvents, dries quickly, so multiple coats
> can be applied in the same day. It provides a hard, smooth surface with
excellent durability, can be burnished to create an
> extremely low-friction hull surface and there?s no thick buildup to remove
when recoating. On the down side, they are incompatible
> with most other finishes, require frequent recoating because they are thin
and gradually lose effectiveness out of water.
>
> MJM
>
> BTW peter I was trying to pick on you, insult or get in a heated debate,
just happened you were the  "staking horse" for that side
> of the issue.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list.
>
>
> > Gang,
> >
> > Mark Kaynor has it right, as far as I'm concerned.  Let's hear more
about
> > boats and sailing.
> >
> > I've got an '84 fixer upper R22 sitting on shoring supports in my side
yard
> > waiting patiently for  a "make-over".  So far, I only managed to demo
the
> > interior down to bare hull.  I expect the "Phoenix" is going to be a
long
> > project.
> >
> > Does anyone out there drysail?  Has anyone tried Interlux Performance
Epoxy
> > with teflon bottom paint?
> >
> > PT
> > s/v Phoenix
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > To: <sanderico at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list.
> >
> >
> > > Rik,
> > >
> > > Good points. And I agree, for the most part.
> > >
> > > For me, however, it's more of a signal-to-noise issue than it is about
any
> > > particular political (or whatever) viewpoint. I already have to deal
with
> > an
> > > ever increasing amount of unsolicited email, and when the list
contains
> > way
> > > more "noise" than "signal", I become tempted to sign off. My wife quit
the
> > > list shortly after joining because there was so much off-topic
discussion.
> > > I've been able to hang in here so far - heck, I even enjoy it
sometimes,
> > to
> > > be perfectly honest. Nevertheless, my primary interest here is the
> > exchange
> > > of info about our boats, and when that's either lacking or getting
drowned
> > > in the noise, the list becomes less valuable to me.
> > >
> > > Mark Kaynor
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:24 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > To all on the Rhodes list,
> > >
> > > We've all been here, done this, most of us more than once.
> > >
> > > To those who would be the Topic Police, I would point you to the
Rhodes
> > List
> > > Charter. Michael will probably post a link to it any minute now. When
you
> > > get
> > > to the part where it says "any topics of interest to Rhodes sailors",
you
> > > will have found the key words. You can (and just might) say that I may
be
> > > out
> > > of place here, being merely a former owner now, but most of the reason
I
> > > still hang out here is because this list doesn't have all of the
stuffy
> > boat
> > > topic only related rules that are found on most lists. We actually get
to
> > do
> > > something besides answer the same old boat questions over and over
when we
> > > come here. This makes this list much more interesting and fun to hang
out
> > > at,
> > > than most.
> > >
> > > I do agree with Rummy that it would be good to be careful that our
posts
> > are
> > > not hurtful. But then again, Some people's feelings seem to get hurt
> > overly
> > > easily. Let's be real here, for every "Democrat" joke that's ever been
> > > posted
> > > here, there one just like it with "Republican" in the punch line. It's
> > > politics, if you didn't laugh at it, you would surely have to cry. If
you
> > > are
> > > going to take all this stuff seriously, you're in for a life full of
hurt
> > > feelings.
> > >
> > > Rik Sandberg
> > > S/V Happy Little Girls 2 - PS Flicka
> > > Formerly, S/V Country Rhodes - R 22
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/24/2003 11:53 am, you wrote:
> > > > Here, here, Rummy.
> > > >
> > > > People who have things to say or relay that do not pertain to the
title
> > of
> > > > this list (Rhodes22), should take it elsewhere.  Common curtesy goes
a
> > > long
> > > > way to keeping people interested in any exchange, even on the
Internet.
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/24/03 12:20:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > >
> > > > R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:
> > > > > I have expressed my political views on the list previously (I have
> > none)
> > > > > so
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not offended by these jokes or cheap shots or whatever you
want to
> > > > > call them. That being said, I feal that the recent flurry of jokes
are
> > > > > not only flamming, but unkind.
> > > > > I really wish you people would do this kind of stuff OFF the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rummy
> > > >
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