Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Geraldo Rivera reports

Tue Apr 6 10:36:35 EDT 2004

Wally, ask a question that make some sence.  YOu are
rambling like a Liberal.  
Steve

--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just as I suspected, you can't answer pointed
> questions without a bunch of 
> BS. I guess I can rest my case. You are brain dead.
> 
> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> Politics Geraldo Rivera 
> >reports
> >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Well, keep on reading Wally; you'll figure it out
> one
> >of these days.
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I knew I could count on you Steve. As I
> suspected
> > > your best counter is
> > > calling me a liberal in spite of my many
> Republican
> > > votes over the past 20
> > > plus years. At least you didn't bring up
> fishing.
> > >
> > > I made several points and you ignored all but
> one.
> > > Yes they used chemical
> > > weapons almost 15 years ago. This in no way
> proves
> > > they have them now and
> > > they were never used against the US. Also Bush
> > > claimed they had or were
> > > working towards nuke ability.  No evidence found
> to
> > > date. What about my
> > > other points? No terror link unless you know
> > > something I don't know. From
> > > what I gather your main reason for going in was
> to
> > > help the people of Iraq.
> > > Didn't Bush say he was against "Nation
> Building"? I
> > > know you will not answer
> > > so I am ready for your response about liberals
> and
> > > fishing.
> > >
> > > I am guessing that no conservatives are jumping
> on
> > > your bandwagon because
> > > you don't provide any facts to agree with, just
> > > ranting rhetoric. You try to
> > > make your case in a manner that most
> conservatives
> > > do not agree with.
> > > Several have tried to explain that there are
> many on
> > > both sides against the
> > > way Iraq was handled. Of course you will just
> call
> > > them all liberals and
> > > cowards regardless of past voting record.
> > >
> > > So you think I (or any liberal) haven't done any
> > > research, yet you have
> > > because you watch FOX? LOL    I watch a variety
> of
> > > news including FOX, BBC
> > > and network. I have also read numerous books on
> the
> > > history and culture of
> > > Israel and the Middle East in general. My wife
> lived
> > > in Israel during the
> > > 80s and has provided me with a wealth of
> information
> > > regarding the Middle
> > > East culture.  Clue me in, what is the source of
> > > your research other than US
> > > polls and FOX? Please don’t tell me the answer
> is
> > > Rush!
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> > > Politics Geraldo Rivera
> > > >reports
> > > >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Come on Wally, your hassing old new.  No
> WMD,then
> > > what
> > > >did Saldam kill all those poeple with when he
> used
> > > >chemical weapon on them.  What is this, are
> there
> > > only
> > > >liberals on this list.  Most people, (note
> based on
> > > >the polls) support the war in Irag.  Its only
> the
> > > loud
> > > >mouth liberals that are complaining so much.
> > > However,
> > > >when you factor in the liberal networks & the
> fact
> > > >that liberal never reasearch for themselfs, you
> > > know
> > > >why they are so misinformed.
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Steve the Analyst,
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you ever considered that there are
> > > > > conservatives against attacking
> > > > > Iraq? Can you expand your mind to separate
> > > issues or
> > > > > do you just lump them
> > > > > all into one? Is it at all possible that we
> > > could
> > > > > have achieved better
> > > > > results by some other means than attacking
> Iraq?
> > > > >
> > > > > So maybe we attacked to fight terror against
> the
> > > US.
> > > > > Oops no link to 911
> > > > > with Iraq (or the Cole, or the blowing up of
> US
> > > > > Embassies). Well maybe we
> > > > > attacked because they had WMD. Oops no WMD
> > > found.
> > > > > Well maybe we attacked to
> > > > > reduce terror globally. Try telling that to
> > > Spain.
> > > > > Well maybe we attacked
> > > > > because we wanted to be involved with nation
> > > > > building. Oops didn't W have a
> > > > > big speech saying he was against using our
> Armed
> > > > > Forces for nation building?
> > > > > You also say we are at war; actually neither
> > > side
> > > > > has declared war.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe if we hang around a few more years we
> can
> > > cram
> > > > > freedom down their
> > > > > throats. This has worked so well for us in
> the
> > > past.
> > > > > What little good we
> > > > > have achieved in Iraq has not been worth the
> > > cost.
> > > > > Try to use your best
> > > > > analytical skills and do a cost analysis of
> the
> > > > > gains. Look at what we spent
> > > > > and compare it to what we get back in
> return.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have any understanding of the history
> of
> > > the
> > > > > area? Up until this
> > > > > weekend the resistance in Iraq has come from
> the
> > > > > Sunnis. Even though Saddam
> > > > > was a Sunni they are actually much more
> "open
> > > > > minded" than the Shiites
> > > > > (sic?). The Shiites are the old school
> Muslims
> > > and
> > > > > true fundamentalist. They
> > > > > only recognize the earliest teachings of the
> > > Koran
> > > > > and think that the
> > > > > liberal Sunnis are heathens. Think Iran in
> the
> > > early
> > > > > 80s; it was the Shiites
> > > > > that took over the US Embassy. Now the
> Shiites
> > > are
> > > > > unified enough to start
> > > > > attacks against our forces. The only thing
> the
> > > > > Shiites and the Sunnis have
> > > > > in common is their hatred of the US. The
> Kurds
> > > don't
> > > > > have much use for us
> > > > > either but they think it is still in their
> best
> > > > > interest to lay off the US
> > > > > forces. If something comes down that they
> don't
> > > like
> > > > > they will start blowing
> > > > > up our guys as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was watching FOX this weekend and was
> > > fascinated
> > > > > to hear how the falling
> > > > > dollar is helping to drive up the cost of
> oil. I
> > > was
> > > > > happy to learn that
> > > > > economics classes I took in the 70s still
> have
> > > > > merit. They discussed how
> > > > > supply and demand and the strength of the
> dollar
> > > > > have everything to do with
> > > > > the cost of imported goods. I guess you know
> > > better
> > > > > huh? I am also guessing
> > > > > you just love FOX news right? LOL
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure if the numerous errors in your
> > > posts
> > > > > are supposed to just rile
> > > > > the list or if you just don't have a grasp
> of
> > > the
> > > > > facts. I know you will
> > > > > counter with claims that I am liberal and
> bring
> > > up
> > > > > some more nonsense about
> > > > > fishing. Things are a little more complex
> than
> > > that
> > > > > and perhaps beyond your
> > > > > understanding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wally
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22
> mail
> > > > > list
> > > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Apology - was RE:
> [Rhodes22-list]
> > > > > Politics Geraldo Rivera
> > > > > >reports
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 06:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Stan
> > > > > >If the US does not help people in need; who
> > > will???
> > > > > >Saldam was using Chemical weapon on his
> people.
> > > > > Some
> > > > > >country needed to go in there and clean
> that
> > > mess
> > > > > up.
> > > > > >We went in to Somila for a whole lot less
> of a
> > > > > reason.
> > > > > >  It's not making them our mold.  Remember,
> > > they
> > > > > wrote
> > > > > >thier own Constituation.  Women now have
> the
> > > right
> > > > > to
> > > > > >vote.  Girl are being allowed to go to
> school.
> > > > > >Surely, these things are something that the
> > > > > liberals
> > > > > >see are a good thing.  I know there is no
> way
> > > to
> > > > > >change the liberal way of thinking.  Like
> the
> > > old
> > > > > >saying goes; give a man a fish-feed him for
> a
> > > day;
> > > > > >teach him to fish-feed him for life.  The
> bad
> > > thing
> > > > > >about this country, to many people are
> standing
> > > in
> > > > > >line all day waiting on someone to give
> them a
> > > > > fish.
> > > > > >What we are doing in Irag is teaching them
> to
> > > fish.
> > > > >  I
> > > > > >know that the liberal way of thinking will
> > > never
> > > > > agree
> > > > > >to this.  But people need to stop thinking
> > > about
> > > > > >themselves & realize all the good we are
> doing
> > > for
> > > > > >them.  Yes solider are dieing-It's a war. 
> BUT
> > > THE
> > > > > >GOOD, OUTWEIGHTS THE BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > >Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > sorry, I am back in town
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rummy, how did you get so smart?
> > > Webtender,
> > > > > rum
> > > > > > > all around.  And an extra
> > > > > > > round for Wally for reminding us that
> the
> > > USA
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > not put on earth to force
> > > > > > > all other cultures into our mold.  Oh,
> and
> > > water
> > > > > > > Ed's down for asking anyone
> > > > > > > to not bother him by doing their
> responses
> > > to MM
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > stan/gbi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS: Rhodies, stop picking on Tom.  While
> we
> > > are
> > > > > > > probably at opposite ends of
> > > > > > > the polls (in the booth), he is one of
> the
> > > > > nicest,
> > > > > > > most experienced Rhodies
> > > > > > > we have and should be encouraged to move
> > > beyond
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > nautical contributions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, so I can't stop:  It is crazy to
> leave
> > > the
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > because you don't like
> > > > > > > the political banter.  Reminds  me of my
> > > workers
> > > > > > > who, when I attempt to
> > > > > > > cover an area beyond their narrow job,
> say,
> > > I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > need to know that.  And
> > > > > > > I say how did you get that big arm
> muscle
> > > and
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > say, by using it.  And I
> > > > > > > suggest they will get the same kind of
> > > growing
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > using their head (just
> > > > > > > look how well it has been working for
> Todd).
> > > > > For
> > > > > > > those who feel they don't
> > > > > > > need the broader growth this list
> brings,
> > > the
> > > > > > > founding fathers did come up
> > > > > > > with the idea of subject titles for the
> > > delete
> > > > > > > button.  It is just that I am
> > > > > > > afraid that more and more of the worlds'
> > > > > exploding
> > > > > > > population will be taking
> > > > > > > the "I don't need to know that" approach
> to
> > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > going on in the world -
> > > > > > > until the world comes to a stop.  And
> they
> > > all
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > get off.  .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > stan/gbi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:01 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Apology - was RE:
> > > [Rhodes22-list]
> > > > > > > Politics Geraldo Rivera
> > > > > > > reports
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steve,
> > > > > > > > While one is a member of the military,
> > > > > protesting
> > > > > > > against the war you are
> > > > > > > > fighting is frowned upon. (suggestions
> of
> > > > > > > dishonorable discharge, prison,
> > > > > > > etc.) I
> > > > > > > > also served in Vietnam, came home and
> > > > > protested
> > > > > > > against the war. We never
> > > > > > > > should have been there in the first
> place,
> > > but
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > did my duty, served my
> > > > > > > country
> > > > > > > > and lived through it. I exercised my
> > > > > > > constitutional right to protest our
> > > > > > > > involvement in Vietnam and so did the
> > > majority
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the people that went
> > > > > > > there. Kerry
> > > > > > > > is not alone in his beliefs. It was
> the
> > > > > continued
> > > > > > > protests that eventually
> > > > > > > > ended our involvement. I see a day
> when
> > > > > protests
> > > > > > > against our involvement
> > > > > > > in Iraq
> > > > > > > > may accomplish the same thing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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