pinning turnbuckles Re: [Rhodes22-list] Proud New Rhodes 22 Owners

[ellner]

We use the lock nut to secure the shrouds. There is nothing to catch on but 
be aware one is a right hand thread and the other is a left hand thread.  I 
found the rings cought on things and were difficult to insert.

Rod
Toy Blew

At 08:24 PM 5/4/2004 -0400, Jim Connolly wrote:
>Some of the turnbuckles I had on my old Mariner were closed tubular type and
>could not be pinned (e.g.,  West Marine Catalog pg 1012 part # 114942).
>They locked with a jam nut on each end against the turnbuckle body.  I also
>had one visually similar to the Ronstan sealoc type (same page, part #
>364994) on the forestay, which also locked via a nut.
>
>I think this was a result of haphazard partial standing rigging replacement
>over 30 years, and not a preference.  I did not observe that either type was
>better at not releasing.  The not ones require a small wrench to adjust, but
>have little on which to catch sails, lines or clothes.
>
>FWIW, I use cotter rings, not pins on my turnbuckles, and I have not had
>problems.
>
>My $0.02
>
>Jim Connolly
>s/v Inisheer
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 8:26 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: pinning turnbuckles Re: [Rhodes22-list] Proud New Rhodes 22 Owners
>
>Hmmm..... I'd like to hear some more discussion on this. Having had a shroud
>come unfastened near the end of a long sail in bumpy conditions the first
>year we had Fretless (yeah we're slackers and didn't have enough tension in
>the rig), we have always pinned our turnbuckles since. When we tighten the
>turnbuckles we are very careful to hold the stay with a pair of pliers so
>the stay itself doesn't turn. I think I'd rather be extra careful not to
>induce any twist and then pin the turnbuckles. They are, after all,
>TURNbuckles and are meant to turn. Anyone else have opinions on this? What
>are the locknuts mentioned below?
>
>By the way we had a two hour sail on Saturday - nice winds, not too cold,
>managed to exit the slip and return without breaking anything, even managed
>to have all the lines run correctly and working smoothly - it was great to
>be back on the water!
>
>Mary Lou
>1991 R22 Fretless
>Swan Creek , MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
>
>
>
>At 11:14 PM 5/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >none of the above, you will end up breaking the wire, the reason the
> >turn buckles come undone is because you transferred "twits" to the
> >wire, unless it come out and fast the wire will break under load, it is
> >also a very common mistake with high odds you made it.
> >if the trun bucks pop, just make sure to put the back on without
> >letting the wire turn, that also goes for all tighting.
> >
> >MJM
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sheldon Green" <sheldongreen at comcast.net>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:53 PM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Proud New Rhodes 22 Owners
> >
> >
> >Hello to the Rhodes 22 Board....
> >
> >
> >We are novice sailors and would like to introduce ourselves to the
> >board as Elton has just delivered our refurbished Rhodes 22.  Accolades
> >to Stan for a really great design in a Sailboat!
> >
> >We will be sailing out of Mariner's Marina in Barnegat, NJ.  The Marina
> >has more 90% Sailboats.
> >
> >
> >
> >We spent our first weekend on the boat, however we were unable to take
> >her for our maiden voyage as the winds were in excess of 20 knots.
> >This of course gave us time to rig the boat and explore it various
> >"nooks and crannies". Jay Friedland, of L.B.I., was gracious enough to
> >help Elton and us to launch and rig the boat.
> >
> >While rigging the boat, Jay showed us how to secure the turnbuckles
> >from loosening after applying the appropriate tension to the Shrouds
>/Stays.
> >While talking to one of the other sailors in the Marina about the
> >different ways to secure the turnbuckles, they suggested that we use
>"locking nuts"
> >(Check Nut Locking) vs. "ring pins" or "cotter pins".  They explained
> >that the "locking nuts" were easier to manage in the long run.  So....
> >I was wondering if anyone has used this approach, and if so, what size
> >nuts are needed for job (#10,1/4", 5/16", or 3/8")?
> >
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