[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Cushions

Fri Aug 26 10:37:29 EDT 2005

Wally,

I have Stan's cockpit cushions.  I almost never sit directly on them.  I 
generally sit in a captain's chair, with my feet on the cushions.  I 
also have 2 folding seats (available from West for around $50), and 2 
beanbag chairs purchased from the beanbag lady at a boat show for around 
$75 each.  All 6 seats can be comfortably deployed simultaneously.  Each 
seat is more comfortable than any seat that comes standard in any 
sailboat I've ever been on.

Stan's cushions fit perfectly, and have proved very durable.  They are 7 
years old and still look brand new.  I store them  (along with all the 
other seats) on the settee when not in use.  I put them out immediately 
every time I go on board.  This takes around 14 seconds.  I like them 
for kneeling when I am pulling in anchors or putting out fenders.  Every 
now and again I kneel to do something after I have put away the 
cushions.  Boy those seats are hard!

Bill Effros

Wally Buck wrote:

> Bill, It is hard to guess what I would want to spend. You need to 
> determine production and shipping costs. From there add the desired 
> mark up. That is the price. I am sure GB does not want to carry large 
> cost for inventory. I would suspect that prices could be quoted for 
> different sizes. Get quotes for 5, 10 25, each.  I have no idea who to 
> go to for "quotes" in China but it sounds like there might be folks on 
> this list that do.
>
> Initially I would want new cockpit cushions with fill in. Also cabin 
> cushions. I am considering doing this myself. I am also getting price 
> locally. One drawbck to doing them myself is the most likely will look 
> like crap. Having them done locally means I can test foam and not pay 
> shipping. Ordering from GB means they will fit right but I don't want 
> standard foam. In the cabin I want to go with 3 inches of foam with 1 
> inch of memory foam glued on top side. I have seen cushions made this 
> way and they are great for sleeping and sitting. I am still working on 
> best foam for cockpit (with fill in).
>
> Wally
>
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:02:44 -0400
>>
>> Wally,
>>
>> Can you put numbers on your desires?  I mean this quite seriously.  I 
>> know you use your boat, and I know you want to be fair to Stan.  At 
>> what price would you buy various items from Stan?  Which items would 
>> you be most interested in?  What would you be willing to pay?  You 
>> will not be held to any of this--it is just part of an exercise to 
>> see if what we all want can be done.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>> Wally Buck wrote:
>>
>>> If you are asking me if I have a problem purchasing Chinese made 
>>> boat parts from Stan ....If I place my order and send payment to 
>>> Stan the source doesn't concern me too much. I would prefer to buy 
>>> "USA" but I have owned many imported cars.
>>>
>>> You also asked if price is holding me back from purchasing boat 
>>> goodies from GB. The answer is yes. I would love to have new cabin 
>>> cushions, new cockpit cushions, cokcpit fill-in cushions, pop-top 
>>> enclosure, bimini. The boom room really doesn't interest me. We 
>>> overnight quite a bit. If it is stormy we go in cabin. If it is nice 
>>> we like the view from cockpit. We also swim and fish.  I am trying 
>>> to decide if I should spend the money on my R22 or perhaps sell and 
>>> use the cash from all of those upgrades for .......
>>>
>>> I forgot, add the battened IMF to my wish  list as well.
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>>>> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:21:37 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Brad Haslett emailed me off-list regarding our discussion of boom 
>>>> rooms, etc. which he has been following while vacationing in China.
>>>>
>>>> Brad asked if anyone would have an interest in his exploring 
>>>> Chinese manufacture of Boom Rooms, Sails, Pop-Top Enclosures, 
>>>> Cockpit and Cabin Cushions, Cockpit Fill in Boards, -- all the 
>>>> little stuff the Chinese can make for a fraction of what it costs 
>>>> to manufacture in the US.
>>>>
>>>> I have not asked Stan about this, and I don't think Brad has 
>>>> either, however it goes without saying that if Stan doesn't like 
>>>> the idea, Brad is not going to do it.  Stan would make money on 
>>>> every item made in China, and whatever he says is his cut, that's 
>>>> what he'll get.  There will be no negotiation on this.
>>>>
>>>> But before he even begins the project, Brad wants to know how the 
>>>> ultimate consumers feel about this idea.  If Brad can set up 
>>>> manufacturing in China with Stan's approval, would Rhodes owners 
>>>> buy the Chinese made products?
>>>>
>>>> Stan would have to provide the original patterns and 
>>>> specifications, but that is all Stan would have to do.  Brad 
>>>> believes he can set up a reliable manufacturing operation in China 
>>>> that will produce any of these products to Stan's satisfaction at a 
>>>> lower cost than Stan can get them produced in the US.
>>>>
>>>> 5 of us indicated an interest in Boom Rooms.  Me, Chris, Dave, 
>>>> Bruce, and maybe Bob.  (Did I miss anyone?)  I would be willing to 
>>>> be the guinea pig on this. How do the rest of you feel?  Bob, if we 
>>>> could bring the price down, at what price would you be a player?
>>>>
>>>> What about people who want Pop Top Enclosures, or Battened IMF 
>>>> sails, or cockpit fill in cushions?  Is there a price for these 
>>>> items that would prompt you to take money out of your pocket and 
>>>> put it on the table?
>>>>
>>>> Look at Stan's options prices on his web site 
>>>> (http://www.rhodes22.com/super_options.html).  Is there something 
>>>> you would actually buy if the price were lower?  If so, what would 
>>>> the price have to be?
>>>>
>>>> Brad is returning to the US shortly, and doesn't have much time to 
>>>> see if he can set up something like this.  If you think this is a 
>>>> terrible idea, please speak up quickly so we all know where we stand.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is an interesting idea if Brad can actually do it.  It 
>>>> is something we can all do to put more money in Stan's pocket right 
>>>> away, while buying parts for our boats at a lower cost.  It's a 
>>>> win-win...if Brad can pull it off.
>>>>
>>>> Please note.  Brad is a commercial airline pilot who no longer owns 
>>>> a Rhodes 22.  There is nothing in this deal for him.  He will 
>>>> always make more money flying an airplane than getting involved in 
>>>> a crazy sailboat spare parts Chinese manufacturing scheme.  He just 
>>>> happens to be in China right now, saw Stan's Lament, and asked if 
>>>> there was anything he could do to help.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
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