[Rhodes22-list] Hybrid Cars

[L. Sailor]

Bill,

How about an itinerary for your tour?  What book will
you be promoting?

elle

--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Hank,
> 
> I did the same math, and came to the same
> conclusion.  But I have a 
> special need, and that is why I'm buying the car.  I
> will be doing a 
> book tour next Spring, the first of many.  I drive
> from city to city 
> because it's so much less a hassle than flying.  My
> interest in the 
> Toyota Camry is its range, which is better than 600
> miles on a tankful.
> 
> When you do the morning news you often have to be at
> the TV station 
> before 6:00 am.  If you have driven a couple of
> hundred miles to get to 
> the next city late at night, you don't want to have
> to drive around to 
> find an open gas station, either late at night or
> early the next 
> morning.  I like to sleep as close to the first TV
> station as possible, 
> and often they are located in remote places with no
> nearby gas 
> stations.  The huge range allows me to drive from
> one city to the next, 
> hitting all the local TV stations the next morning
> before I have to fill 
> the tank and get to the next town.
> 
> This is also the reason for not buying a diesel.  In
> many places diesel 
> is just too hard to come by.
> 
> The last time I did this I bought a Camry that had a
> 500 plus mile 
> range.  I didn't often get to the bottom of the
> tank, but a few times I 
> did.  I liked the car--it was comfortable and quiet
> for repeated long 
> trips.  The new one is supposed to have the same
> attributes, and the 600 
> mile range is the big draw for me.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Hank wrote:
> > Bill,
> >
> > On the subject of hybrid cars, we recently bought
> a new car and we were
> > looking at the Honda Civic, both standard and
> hybrid.  For us, the 
> > math just
> > didn't work out and we ended up buying the
> standard version. I'll show 
> > you
> > what I mean.  FYI, both of the cause were
> comparable equipped with the 
> > only
> > real difference being the drivetrain.
> >
> >
> >
> > Honda Civic
> >
> > MPG
> >
> > Gas Cost/Gal
> >
> > Annual Miles
> >
> > Gas/year (Mileage/MPG)
> >
> > Gas Cost/year
> >
> > Veh Cost
> >
> > # of years to break even
> >
> > Regular
> >
> > 30
> >
> > 2.5
> >
> > 15000
> >
> > 500
> >
> > 1250
> >
> > 18000
> >
> >
> >
> > Hybrid
> >
> > 50
> >
> > 2.5
> >
> > 15000
> >
> > 300
> >
> > 750
> >
> > 22000
> >
> > 8
> >
> >
> >
> > At a savings of $500 a year in gas, it would take
> 8 years for the 
> > hybrid to
> > break even with the normal engine version because
> of the increased 
> > purchase
> > price. To me, that is just not economically
> feasible.
> > Hank
> >
> > On 10/9/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Saroj,
> >>
> >> Just found this.  Be careful on geothermal.  My
> brother tried it and got
> >> burned--no, that's a bad word word in this
> instance--he got frozen--it
> >> sucked so much water out of the ground that there
> was none left for
> >> cooking or bathing--not to mention that it got
> lukewarm very quickly.
> >>
> >> Bill Effros
> >>
> >> PS -- I've rented the straight diesel cars in
> Europe and they are
> >> sensational.  You can't tell they are diesels any
> more except when you
> >> keep passing gas pumps without needing any more
> fuel.  I am seriously
> >> considering a hybrid Camry for myself.
> >>
> >> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
> >> > I've heard the deisel - electric cars are
> available in Europe now.. so
> >> > maybe not so far away.
> >> >
> >> > I am planning on geothermal which should
> certainly help with the
> >> > cooling... as it turns out I have to dig a well
> on this property even
> >> > though it is fairly Urban... a very old and
> small neighborhood where
> >> > most have wells already so no impetus to
> provide city water.  which is
> >> > just fine with me. The well drilling company I
> plan to use already has
> >> > experience drilling the geothermal holes as
> well... so one-stop
> >> shopping.
> >> >
> >> > Also already planning on the SIP approach...
> trying to blend the
> >> > energy-efficiency with some interesting
> architecture aside from the
> >> > typical Colonial or brick ranch that is common
> in this area.  Thought
> >> > seriously about doing a dome, but decided
> against it for this area for
> >> > asset-protection reasons.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the good info!
> >> >
> >> > Saroj
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad
> Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:01 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Good News - Gas
> Prices Falling
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bill & Saroj,
> >> >
> >> > Bill, the Jetta will work for me.  I've owned a
> couple of early 80's
> >> > diesel
> >> > Rabbits and a diesel Audi 4000 (same drive
> train) The Rabbit hatchback
> >> is
> >> > coming back but I prefer a sedan.  I flew GDL,
> Mexico all last month
> >> > where
> 
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