[Rhodes22-list] Planes v Buildings

[L. Sailor]

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--- Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> Yes, an equipment malfunction is quite possible.  If
> the PIC experienced an
> anal/optical reversion it could result in losing
> control of the aircraft.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On 10/12/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > You all know flying.  I don't.  But is it possible
> the plane was out of
> > control and doing those turns on its own because
> of an equipment
> > malfunction?
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jbconnolly at comcast.net
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 8:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Planes v Buildings
> >
> >
> > I did a calculation, and at 156 knot cruise
> (Cirrus Design web site) and
> > maximum turn radius of 0.2 miles, that works out
> to about a 2-g turn
> > minimum, more if he were flying up the middle of
> the river and had to turn
> > tighter.  Is that not a bit aggressive for a
> rookie pilot and a private
> > plane?
> >
> > Jim Connolly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of mputnam1 at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:29 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Planes v Buildings
> >
> > I think I remember seeing a live interview with
> one of the eyewitnesses on
> > CNN yesterday ... and they said that the airplane
> did some tight turns and
> > plowed into the building ...
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jbconnolly at comcast.net
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 6:51 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Planes v Buildings
> >
> >
> > Noticed an interesting thing when comparing the
> CNN photo of the building
> > with Google Earth and the description of the
> accident.  He was supposedly
> > flying north along the East River from circling
> the Statue of Liberty.
> > Photo shows that he impacted about center of north
> wall of the building,
> > so
> > he must have made (at least) one 180-degree turn
> from somewhere over the
> > East River.  Assuming that he was flying along the
> east riverbank, that is
> > a
> > turn radius of at most 0.22 miles.  I have no
> reference, but it sounds
> > like
> > a pretty tight turn at 150+ miles per hour.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Jim Connolly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Brad Haslett
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:17 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Planes v Buildings
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > I'm a bit rusty on FAA part 91 regs but I think
> buildings still have the
> > right-of-way.  I checked out on the Citation jet
> at Flight Safety not long
> > after Thurmon Munson field tested his.  My sim
> partner and I dubbed the
> > airplane the Munson burner.  FS didn't think it
> was funny.
> >
> > Rik,
> >
> > Just wait, Congress will get involved and make all
> small airplanes carry
> > devices to watch out for jumping buildings.
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Yep, the forked-tail doctor killer.  This one is a
> 48' with a ton of mods.
> > It looks like a P model with the rear window and
> stinger tail.  I really
> > wanted a G model (year I was born) but this one
> was too good to pass up.
> > It's got a modern T-formation panel and a pretty
> nice stack of avionics.
> > I've been following the Mooney M20C market closely
> for the last year but
> > finally decided I wanted a bit more room.  The
> early Bonanzas (Continental
> > E-225-8 engine) can get an STC for auto-gas which
> saves a buck and a half
> > per gallon.  This one has the STC and an aft 20
> gallon aux tank.  I figure
> > if I get it to altitude on avgas and then switch
> over to 93 octane from
> > Arco
> > I can get the fuel costs  below that of the Mooney
> at ten more knots and a
> > lot more comfort. Twenty gallons is about two
> hours at altitude - the
> > MEM-GPT leg is slightly less than two hours.  I
> sent off for the title
> > search today and am having the seller send an oil
> sample off to the lab
> > for
> > analysis.  If it passes the pre-purchase
> inspection, I should be able to
> > fly
> > her home from Prescott, AZ next week.
> >
> > Brad
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