[Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22

anima13 anima13 at bellsouth.net
Tue Sep 19 06:27:48 EDT 2006 

Sir,
your news is totally incorrect!
THe IMF enabled me to sail alone in 30mph + winds.
In higher winds the IMF gives you any number of choices of
size of your main. Likewise, the roller furling enables your
choice of jib size. I would put out two hankies and go! Alone!
Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Erly Garner
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:24 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22


I've gotten news that the Rhodes 22 isn't exactly easy to handle in stronger
winds.  What are your feelings on handling in say 20 knots or a little
stronger?

Erly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Keller" <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22


> Philip,
> I think the wide beam and flared hull does make the boat more stable and
> less prone to capsize.  But I also think a deeper fixed keel would do the
> same and would point better.  However, it's not as trailerable, so there
> are always compromises.  My point was that the wide beam negatively
> affects pointing ability.  I previously owned a 21' piece of crap boat
> that had a very heavy, steel swing keel.  The beam was also pretty
> narrow-probably 6 feet.  It pointed very high and was very stable.  But it
> smelled really bad...
> Bob K
>
>
>>From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:09:05 -0400
>>
>>Bob,
>>     Doesn't the wide beam make the boat more laterally stable, that is,
>> less
>>prone to capsize?
>>
>>Philip
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Bob Keller
>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:37 PM
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>
>>Erly,
>>I've had my '95 R-22 for 5 years in both fresh and salt water and I do
>>love
>>the boat, but the boat and design does have some drawbacks.  It does not
>>point very high into the wind because of the wide beam and lack of a deep
>>fixed keel (which makes it trailerable).  The keel centerboard combination
>>is also a compromise and my "diamond-board" configuration is just not that
>>great for windward sailing.  In five years I have had ongoing, almost
>>continuous problems with the centerboard not raising and lowering freely
>>and
>>am currently having those problems again.  Matter of fact am going to pull
>>the boat next weekend and try to repair the centerboard again.  While the
>>Compac 23 does not have the amenities, it does have a fixed keel and
>>probably points better because I don't think the beam is as wide.  Still,
>>I
>>chose the Rhodes over the Compac and have been very pleased, despite these
>>ongoing problems.  If you have the "older design" centerboard, you might
>>be
>>better off.  Good luck.
>>Bob K
>>Yankee Clipper
>>
>>
>> >From: "Erly Garner" <erlyg at charter.net>
>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:02:18 -0500
>> >
>> >My auto manual says absolutely 3500 lb. tow limit....Doesn't sound too
>> >good. Maybe it's time I thought about getting a new car.
>> >
>> >Erly
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Troy"
>> ><mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:47 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >
>> >
>> >>Erly, What's the van rated for? Our Chev Blazer is rated to tow  5,000
>> >>lbs. It does ok hauling the Rhodes but we only tow it a couple of times
>>a
>> >>year. It we were to tow long distances more often and if we had a lot
>> >>of
>> >>hills we might look for something a little beefier. The Rhodes does tow
>> >>well but it's fairly heavy for its size (all those amenities weigh
>> >>something). Because of the 9 stays it takes a bit longer to set up than
>>a
>> >>boat with fewer. On the plus side is the IMF which allows you to raise
>> >>mast, sails and boom all at once. Of course that bundle is heavier than
>> >>the individual pieces so a mast raising system like the once GB sells
>> >>comes in very handy.
>> >>
>> >>Best,
>> >>
>> >>Mary Lou
>> >>1991 R22   Fretless
>> >>Swan Creek (Rock Hall, MD)
>> >>
>> >>At 08:31 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
>> >>>I'm probably about 5 hrs or so from Edenton and am planning a trip for
>>a
>> >>>check-out sail.  I haven't heard any comments about towing with my
>> >>>Toyota. I assume most are towed with an suv or resonably sized truck.
>> >>>
>> >>>Erly
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>> >>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:17 PM
>> >>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>See, I said there is a negative for every positive and visa versa
>>(i.e.
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>boring list).
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >>>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
>> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:05 PM
>> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Philip,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>No, S2 (Tiara) is another great choice.  They made a 22' foot boat
>>that
>> >>>>kicked ass on the racing circuit. Their gelcoat quality is legendary.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>9.2 S2 center cockpit (my boat) gives the most room of any 30 footer
>> >>>>ever
>> >>>>built at the expense of being ugly.  Leon Slicker, (S2 builder) is a
>> >>>>'Stanish" kind of guy but on a larger scale (boat numbers wise).
>> >>>>
>> >>>>But....they have the dullest e-mail list in the history of sailboats.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>'Bigger is better' is only a state of mind.  There are so many days
>>that
>> >>>>I
>> >>>>long for the smaller boat.  If you want a 22 footer, the search is
>>over.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Brad
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On 9/17/06, Philip <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>One of the negatives is, it would be nice if it were 26 feet, but
>>then
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>wouldn't be as easily "trailerable".  It would be nice if the
>> >>>>>company
>> >>>>>were
>> >>>>a
>> >>>>>great world wide corporation, but then you wouldn't get the personal
>> >>>>>attention from the owner (Stan).  I can't think of anymore
>> >>>>>negatives.
>> >>>>>But
>> >>>>>with each negative, there is a positive.  This is one outstanding
>>boat.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>>only reason to buy something else is size.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Philip
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>> >>>>> >> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Erly Garner
>> >>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:40 PM
>> >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ed K
>> >>>>>I'm located close to Hickory, NC.  Presently, I'm sold on the Rhodes
>> >>>>>but
>> >>>>>want to be informed of both sides of the coin before making an
>> >>>>>investment.
>> >>>>>I'm relatively certain that my present vehicle can't tow a Rhodes
>> >>>>>(93
>> >>>>>Toyota
>> >>>>>Previa Van) but have reserved hopes.  There are bound to be some
>> >>>>>negative
>> >>>>>sides to a Rhodes, I just can't seem to find any.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Erly
>> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> >>>>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:45 PM
>> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Erly:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>      You came to the wrong house to find con's to Rhodes 22.  When
>> >>>>>comparing with the Com-Pac line you have to go to the CP 25 to
>> >>>>>compare.  And
>> >>>>>then you do not have the type trailerability of the Rhodes 22.  As
>>the
>> >>>>>owner
>> >>>>>of Com Pac told me, yes you can trail a 25, at the beginning of the
>> >>>>>season
>> >>>>>and at the end of the season.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>       If you want to trail without a big truck there just is not
>> >>>>>currently
>> >>>>>another design that works like the Rhodes 22, tis fact.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>       One person can rig, launch, retrieve and unrig a Rhodes 22,
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>>is
>> >>>>>done all the time by members of this list.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>       Where are you located?  Have you seen a Rhodes 22?  Look at
>>this
>> >>>>>web
>> >>>>>site:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ed K
>> >>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Erly Garner wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Hi:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I've done limited sailing with my brother on his Compac 19.  I'm
>> >>>>>just
>> >>>>>now
>> >>>>> > getting serious about getting my own boat and my research
>> >>>>>indicates > that
>> >>>>> > the Rhodes 22 seems to be a real dream boat.  I've got to have
>> >>>>>an > easily
>> >>>>> > trailerable craft (definite MUST), mostly plan on lake sailing,
>> >>>>>girlfriend
>> >>>>> > insists on enclosed head, a few lake side overnights on weekends,
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>want
>> >>>>> > to do limited salt water upon retiring.  Big brother say there is
>>no
>> >>>>>other
>> >>>>> > boat but the Compac.  What are the down sides and disadvantages
>> >>>>> > of
>>a
>> >>>>> > Rhodes?  How trailerable is it (smallest vehicle to pull)?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Thanks,
>> >>>>> > Erly
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