[Rhodes22-list] Melting Pot - Brother Brad melts toward totalitarism...
Mary Lou Troy
mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Mon Feb 4 14:13:53 EST 2008
Ed,
I said nothing about turning the other cheek. You
are making an unfounded assumption. Sort of like
like seeing a jerk who would key someone's car
out of distaste for a license plate as representative of liberal thought.
Mary Lou
At 12:59 PM 2/4/2008, you wrote:
>Brad: In the medical field there have been many
>practices in good old USA that worked around the
>problems of religion in medical practice. Since
>you have been too busy flying around, you have
>succumbed to totalitarian point of view. In
>democratic America there have been and are still
>many variations of medical garb or dress to get
>around these problems, especially with females.
>Remember that we have diverse groups such as
>conservative Christians, conservative Jews and
>others who do in America use different grab in
>medical practice. Ask Alice W for her opinion of
>the variations of medical garb that she may have
>seen? And when you copy these copious articles,
>where are the internet citations? How can we
>check on you? And Mary Louâs comment on anti
>war, would she rather let more Twin Towers
>occur? Did she know anyone who was there? I
>have a cousin whom I am reasonably close to who
>lives in New Jersey. I in fact visited with him
>early in December. He was in the lobby of one
>of the towers when a plane hit it. He heard the
>thunk. He saw pieces falling. Luckily, he
>quickly walked down a set of stairs and thru a
>tunnel to the Hudson Tube tunnels. He got home
>that night about 8 p.m. Turning the other cheek
>and advocating peaceful resolution is not always
>the right way. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA "The old
>sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a
>lady commented on his wearing his sidearm.
>"Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you
>expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am. If I were
>expecting trouble, I would have brought my
>rifle." Brad Haslett-2 wrote: > > Keep your eyes
>on Great Britain and Europe if you want to see
>what the > future looks like. PC and
>multi-culturalism is really working, isn't
>it? > > Brad > >
>-------------------- > > Female Muslim medics
>'disobey hygiene rules' > By Julie Henry and
>Laura Donnelly > Last Updated: 1:51am GMT
>04/02/2008 > > Muslim medical students are
>refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to >
>stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because
>they say it is against their > religion. > >
>Women training in several hospitals in England
>have raised objections to > removing their arm
>coverings in theatre and to rolling up their
>sleeves > when > washing their hands, because it
>is regarded as immodest in Islam. > >
>Universities and NHS trusts fear many more will
>refuse to co-operate with > new Department of
>Health guidance, introduced this month, which
>stipulates > that all doctors must be "bare
>below the elbow". > > The measure is deemed
>necessary to stop the spread of infections such
>as > MRSA and Clostridium difficile, which have
>killed hundreds. > > Minutes of a clinical
>academics' meeting at Liverpool University
>revealed > that female Muslim students at Alder
>Hey children's hospital had objected > to >
>rolling up their sleeves to wear gowns. > >
>Similar concerns have been raised at Leicester
>University. Minutes from a > medical school
>committee said that "a number of Muslim females
>had > difficulty in complying with the
>procedures to roll up sleeves to the > elbow >
>for appropriate handwashing". > > Sheffield
>University also reported a case of a Muslim
>medic who refused to > "scrub" as this left her
>forearms exposed. > > Documents from Birmingham
>University reveal that some students would >
>prefer > to quit the course rather than expose
>their arms, and warn that it could > leave
>trusts open to legal action. > > Hygiene experts
>said last night that no exceptions should be
>made on > religious grounds. > > Dr Mark
>Enright, professor of microbiology at Imperial
>College London, > said: > "To wash your hands
>properly, and reduce the risks of MRSA and >
>C.difficile, > you have to be able to wash the
>whole area around the wrist. > > "I don't think
>it would be right to make an exemption for
>people on any > grounds. The policy of bare
>below the elbows has to be applied >
>universally." > > Dr Charles Tannock, a
>Conservative MEP and former hospital
>consultant, > said: > "These students are being
>trained using taxpayers' money and they have a >
>duty of care to their patients not to put their
>health at risk. > > "Perhaps these women should
>not be choosing medicine as a career if they >
>feel unable to abide by the guidelines that
>everyone else has to follow." > > But the
>Islamic Medical Association insisted that
>covering all the body in > public, except the
>face and hands, was a basic tenet of Islam. > >
>"No practising Muslim woman - doctor, medical
>student, nurse or patient - > should be forced
>to bare her arms below the elbow," it said. > >
>Dr Majid Katme, the association spokesman, said:
>"Exposed arms can pick up > germs and there is a
>lot of evidence to suggest skin is safer to
>the > patient > if covered. One idea might be to
>produce long, sterile, disposable gloves > which
>go up to the elbows." > > I >
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