[Rhodes22-list] ... failure of leadership or leading ...

[JbTek]

I got a question or you....was that a threat?
Jb
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From: "Ben Cittadino" <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ... failure of leadership or leading ...


>
> Ed;
>
> Will you answer some questions for me? What is a marxist as you see it?
What
> makes me a marxist in your view?  Does the 1st Amendment to our
Constitution
> immunize folks who libel other folks? Does calling someone a marxist who
is
> not in fact a marxist constitute defamation of character? Do you have any
> life savings?  Inquiring minds want to know?
>
> Have a nice day.
>
>
> Ben C.
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > Obama intentionally and cynically has misled the public about his
> > relationship with Ayers.  This issue isn't going away and it shouldn't
> > go away.  Speculation is strong and the evidence is growing that the
> > Obama and Ayers relationship goes all the way back to Obama's days in
> > NYC at Columbia (Ayers was there at the same time and they were both
> > friends of Dr. Saed) and that Ayers actually ghost authored Obama's
> > first book (the word count and sentence structure mirrors Ayer's
> > writing and was written at a 12th grade level, Obama's second book was
> > written at a 9th grade level).  But let's forget speculation for a
> > moment and stick with what is known.  I'm posting a link instead of
> > the article so you can see the photo.
> >
> >
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/obama-praised-searing-timely-book-ayers/
> >
> > We know from tax returns from the Annenberg Challenge that Obama,
> > Ayers, and Klonsky all had offices on the same floor of the same
> > building. Michelle and Ayers' wife both worked at the same law firm.
> > Obama and Ayers appeared at joint speaking engagements (which by the
> > way, Illinois ethics law prohibits receiving fees for speaking but
> > Obama's tax returns show "speaker fees" during the period he was in
> > the Illinois Senate, another MSM oversight).
> >
> > "Just a guy in my neighborhood with a degree in English"
> >
> > That was willful intent to decieve and the MSM has for the most part
> > let him get away with it.
> >
> > The man is a liar, if he were on trial he would certainly be guilty of
> > perjury - and he may well be, soon.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben said, "... Since I socialize mostly with folks in my own
> >> socioeconomic
> >> class, while most support Obama, ..."  The term leadership comprises
many
> >> atributes.  And part of what are call traditional values is simple
> >> honesty.
> >> Sometimes honesty requires analysis of what is going on and saying hey,
"
> >> America, we have a problem..."
> >>
> >> Ben discounted the Bill Ayers thing.  Even if he is a Marxist as is
Bill
> >> Ayers, he as an American has an obligation to speak the truth.  In
> >> America a
> >> Marxist is obligated to tell the truth and not lie about it.  So it
goes
> >> with his candidate Obama.
> >>
> >> So what are the elements of Conspiracy?  If you know or should have
> >> reasonable known something?  Are you obligated to say something?  If
you
> >> do
> >> not say anything are you a coconspirator?
> >>
> >> In Ben's case I have to ask, if a fraud is being commited is he
obligated
> >> to
> >> speak out?
> >>
> >> The above is why I routinely for years have quoted:
> >> In Germany they first came for the Communists
> >>    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
> >>  Then they came for the Jews,
> >>    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
> >> Then they came for the trade unionists
> >>     and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
> >> Then they came for the Catholics
> >>     and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
> >>  Then they came for me
> >>    and by that time no one was left to speak up.
> >>
> >>  --The Reverend Martin Niemöller, a pastor in the German Confessing
> >> Church
> >> who spent seven years in a concentration camp.
> >>
> >> Ben said, "... I, on the other hand, wish there were no connection at
all
> >> because then we could argue about policy instead of who knew who, where
> >> and
> >> when, and what possible difference it makes."
> >>
> >> Is this an admission of an issue?  Saying that because most others deny
> >> the
> >> connection is using Richard Nixon's arguement that everybody else in
> >> politics did it, therefore it was o.k.  Saying his friends deny the
issue
> >> does not make it go away.  It is Richard Nixon's arguement all over
> >> again.
> >> Wasn't Nixon a lawyer?
> >>
> >> Does law school teach ask the hard questions in court, but do not ask
> >> them
> >> of yourself?  Are lawyers above the law?  Inquiring minds want to know?
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> attachment for Andrew:
> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20084939/Andrew%2527s%2Bversion.jpg
> >> Andrew%27s+version.jpg
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