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[Brad Haslett]

Herb,

You can't buy rubber dog shit form China on the internet without going
through credit card security.  I'm attaching the e-mail I got from the
Obama campaign today. Sorry folks if I'm getting a bit too caustic for
your tastes, but we've been down this road before.  This man is a
crook and you are being fooled.  Notice - I didn't say you were a
fool.

Brad

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What is Obama's current main theme?
>
> The one I see most often is "I'm going to take from the 5%, and give to
> the 95%".
>
> That sounds like "get me elected" policy, not sound fiscal policy.
>
> The 5% are not going to remain. Some will, but some will put their money
> someplace where they can keep more of it. They didn't get to be the top
> 5% because they stood by and did nothing while others took from them.
>
>
> Robert Skinner wrote:
>> A slight change in viewpoint might get us closer to
>> a more comprehensive truth.
>>
>> Economics
>>
>> If you look at conservatives as have experienced a
>> schism somewhere around the Eisenhower administration.
>> One subset could be considered "old" conservatives -
>> conservative in fiscal, natural, and social areas.
>>
>> The other (granted that there are degrees of
>> difference, but follow this admitted
>> oversimplification) branch could be called "new"
>> conservatives, following a progression that has
>> resulted in the "neocons" of today.
>>
>> The neocon fiscal policies culminated in
>> "trickle-down".  As seen by liberals, it is regarded
>> as providing benefits to those who don't need them
>> on the premise that the excess will eventually get
>> to those who do have real need.  This is not popular
>> among the poor.  The neocon sees it as a means of
>> consolidating wealth so that corporations and other
>> putatively productive segments of the economy can
>> get about the business of the nation, creating
>> wealth that will lift the whole country.  The
>> history of this theory has been checkered.
>>
>> Somewhere along the line, one has to ask where the
>> cost of any economic policy will fall.  Pushing it
>> off into the future hardly seems responsible, but
>> it seems to be the general approach of the neocons,
>> quite the opposite of the way that the "old"
>> conservatives would behave.  Roosevelt has been
>> pilloried by old Republicans for creating national
>> debt, but more has been created in the last 8 years
>> than in all before.
>>
>> Etc.
>>
>> A discussion of social issues, etc. would reveal
>> greater diversity in viewpoints in these areas - at
>> least fragmentation, if not one or more continua -
>> certainly not the simple binary division that is
>> being offered as the framework for discussion in
>> the current election.
>>
>> Some say that the GOP is now the party of hate and
>> fear.  While it is true that it seems more hawkish
>> than the Democratic approach, that characterization
>> is no more valid than regarding the Democrats as
>> misguided economic leaches and treacherous perverts.
>>
>> Perhaps we are more confined my our two party
>> system than we think.  There is little place for
>> the multi-dimensional thinker.
>>
>> Time for a bit of rational thought, doncha think?
>>
>> /Robert
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net wrote:
>>
>>> I once read something that stated that most conservatives think liberals
>>> are just plain stupid and that most liberals think conservatives are just
>>> plain evil.  I thought it was funny and maybe just a little bit accurate.
>>> Not that liberals are stupid or conservatives are evil, but that each
>>> thinks a little that way about the other.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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