[Rhodes22-list] Shoddy credit card security

[ben]

That lack of credit card security is shockingly lax.  Perhaps it's a sign of
Obama being crooked, but if so, he's not one that covers his trail very
well.  It could just as easily be shoddy web development.  You have to
assign some fault to visa and mastercard for approving those transactions.

I'm interested to hear your bank's reaction when you explain that this
wasn't your charge and that you want your money back.

Point of full disclosure -- I worked most of my adult life planning,
designing, and implementing software for banks.  I've seen every kind of
shoddiness you can imagine (if that's a word).

One of my favorites was this:  a bug in our application processing system
caused a regional bank in the Southeast to mail over 600 copies of a decline
letter to one single borrower.  It was a shop where people stuffed the
envelopes, so you would think that someone would have noticed, but they
don't pay the envelope stuffers enough to get thinking employees, I guess.
Needless to say, the guy was pretty bitter.

I've got more, but I really need to do some actual work tonight.  Planning
to goof off all day tomorrow.

Ben S.
Baton Rouge, LA
Crooked Politician Capital of the World


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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 21:12
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Labels

Herb,

You can't buy rubber dog shit form China on the internet without going
through credit card security.  I'm attaching the e-mail I got from the
Obama campaign today. Sorry folks if I'm getting a bit too caustic for
your tastes, but we've been down this road before.  This man is a
crook and you are being fooled.  Notice - I didn't say you were a
fool.

Brad

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What is Obama's current main theme?
>
> The one I see most often is "I'm going to take from the 5%, and give to
> the 95%".
>
> That sounds like "get me elected" policy, not sound fiscal policy.
>
> The 5% are not going to remain. Some will, but some will put their money
> someplace where they can keep more of it. They didn't get to be the top
> 5% because they stood by and did nothing while others took from them.
>
>
> Robert Skinner wrote:
>> A slight change in viewpoint might get us closer to
>> a more comprehensive truth.
>>
>> Economics
>>
>> If you look at conservatives as have experienced a
>> schism somewhere around the Eisenhower administration.
>> One subset could be considered "old" conservatives -
>> conservative in fiscal, natural, and social areas.
>>
>> The other (granted that there are degrees of
>> difference, but follow this admitted
>> oversimplification) branch could be called "new"
>> conservatives, following a progression that has
>> resulted in the "neocons" of today.
>>
>> The neocon fiscal policies culminated in
>> "trickle-down".  As seen by liberals, it is regarded
>> as providing benefits to those who don't need them
>> on the premise that the excess will eventually get
>> to those who do have real need.  This is not popular
>> among the poor.  The neocon sees it as a means of
>> consolidating wealth so that corporations and other
>> putatively productive segments of the economy can
>> get about the business of the nation, creating
>> wealth that will lift the whole country.  The
>> history of this theory has been checkered.
>>
>> Somewhere along the line, one has to ask where the
>> cost of any economic policy will fall.  Pushing it
>> off into the future hardly seems responsible, but
>> it seems to be the general approach of the neocons,
>> quite the opposite of the way that the "old"
>> conservatives would behave.  Roosevelt has been
>> pilloried by old Republicans for creating national
>> debt, but more has been created in the last 8 years
>> than in all before.
>>
>> Etc.
>>
>> A discussion of social issues, etc. would reveal
>> greater diversity in viewpoints in these areas - at
>> least fragmentation, if not one or more continua -
>> certainly not the simple binary division that is
>> being offered as the framework for discussion in
>> the current election.
>>
>> Some say that the GOP is now the party of hate and
>> fear.  While it is true that it seems more hawkish
>> than the Democratic approach, that characterization
>> is no more valid than regarding the Democrats as
>> misguided economic leaches and treacherous perverts.
>>
>> Perhaps we are more confined my our two party
>> system than we think.  There is little place for
>> the multi-dimensional thinker.
>>
>> Time for a bit of rational thought, doncha think?
>>
>> /Robert
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net wrote:
>>
>>> I once read something that stated that most conservatives think liberals
>>> are just plain stupid and that most liberals think conservatives are
just
>>> plain evil.  I thought it was funny and maybe just a little bit
accurate.
>>> Not that liberals are stupid or conservatives are evil, but that each
>>> thinks a little that way about the other.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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