[Rhodes22-list] Shoddy credit card security

[Brad Haslett]

Ben,

He doesn't have to cover his trail, he needs only to get elected,
Louisiana style.

I don't know what your opinion of Jindal is but I like the guy, dark
skin, possible Hindu and all.

Brad

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:28 PM, ben
<benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
> That lack of credit card security is shockingly lax.  Perhaps it's a sign of
> Obama being crooked, but if so, he's not one that covers his trail very
> well.  It could just as easily be shoddy web development.  You have to
> assign some fault to visa and mastercard for approving those transactions.
>
> I'm interested to hear your bank's reaction when you explain that this
> wasn't your charge and that you want your money back.
>
> Point of full disclosure -- I worked most of my adult life planning,
> designing, and implementing software for banks.  I've seen every kind of
> shoddiness you can imagine (if that's a word).
>
> One of my favorites was this:  a bug in our application processing system
> caused a regional bank in the Southeast to mail over 600 copies of a decline
> letter to one single borrower.  It was a shop where people stuffed the
> envelopes, so you would think that someone would have noticed, but they
> don't pay the envelope stuffers enough to get thinking employees, I guess.
> Needless to say, the guy was pretty bitter.
>
> I've got more, but I really need to do some actual work tonight.  Planning
> to goof off all day tomorrow.
>
> Ben S.
> Baton Rouge, LA
> Crooked Politician Capital of the World
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 21:12
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Labels
>
> Herb,
>
> You can't buy rubber dog shit form China on the internet without going
> through credit card security.  I'm attaching the e-mail I got from the
> Obama campaign today. Sorry folks if I'm getting a bit too caustic for
> your tastes, but we've been down this road before.  This man is a
> crook and you are being fooled.  Notice - I didn't say you were a
> fool.
>
> Brad
>
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> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
>> Robert,
>>
>> What is Obama's current main theme?
>>
>> The one I see most often is "I'm going to take from the 5%, and give to
>> the 95%".
>>
>> That sounds like "get me elected" policy, not sound fiscal policy.
>>
>> The 5% are not going to remain. Some will, but some will put their money
>> someplace where they can keep more of it. They didn't get to be the top
>> 5% because they stood by and did nothing while others took from them.
>>
>>
>> Robert Skinner wrote:
>>> A slight change in viewpoint might get us closer to
>>> a more comprehensive truth.
>>>
>>> Economics
>>>
>>> If you look at conservatives as have experienced a
>>> schism somewhere around the Eisenhower administration.
>>> One subset could be considered "old" conservatives -
>>> conservative in fiscal, natural, and social areas.
>>>
>>> The other (granted that there are degrees of
>>> difference, but follow this admitted
>>> oversimplification) branch could be called "new"
>>> conservatives, following a progression that has
>>> resulted in the "neocons" of today.
>>>
>>> The neocon fiscal policies culminated in
>>> "trickle-down".  As seen by liberals, it is regarded
>>> as providing benefits to those who don't need them
>>> on the premise that the excess will eventually get
>>> to those who do have real need.  This is not popular
>>> among the poor.  The neocon sees it as a means of
>>> consolidating wealth so that corporations and other
>>> putatively productive segments of the economy can
>>> get about the business of the nation, creating
>>> wealth that will lift the whole country.  The
>>> history of this theory has been checkered.
>>>
>>> Somewhere along the line, one has to ask where the
>>> cost of any economic policy will fall.  Pushing it
>>> off into the future hardly seems responsible, but
>>> it seems to be the general approach of the neocons,
>>> quite the opposite of the way that the "old"
>>> conservatives would behave.  Roosevelt has been
>>> pilloried by old Republicans for creating national
>>> debt, but more has been created in the last 8 years
>>> than in all before.
>>>
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> A discussion of social issues, etc. would reveal
>>> greater diversity in viewpoints in these areas - at
>>> least fragmentation, if not one or more continua -
>>> certainly not the simple binary division that is
>>> being offered as the framework for discussion in
>>> the current election.
>>>
>>> Some say that the GOP is now the party of hate and
>>> fear.  While it is true that it seems more hawkish
>>> than the Democratic approach, that characterization
>>> is no more valid than regarding the Democrats as
>>> misguided economic leaches and treacherous perverts.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we are more confined my our two party
>>> system than we think.  There is little place for
>>> the multi-dimensional thinker.
>>>
>>> Time for a bit of rational thought, doncha think?
>>>
>>> /Robert
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> I once read something that stated that most conservatives think liberals
>>>> are just plain stupid and that most liberals think conservatives are
> just
>>>> plain evil.  I thought it was funny and maybe just a little bit
> accurate.
>>>> Not that liberals are stupid or conservatives are evil, but that each
>>>> thinks a little that way about the other.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
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