[Rhodes22-list] Failure to state (speak) truth (Political Response to egregious misstatements)

Tue Sep 30 09:26:47 EDT 2008

Hank,

You have to wonder if the 40% of Nancy's own party who voted against
her weren't pissed because their "pets" were stripped out of the bill
(see below).

Brad

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September 30, 2008
ACORN, Obama, and the Mortgage Mess
By Mona Charen

The financial markets were teetering on the edge of an abyss last
week. The secretary of the Treasury was literally on his knees begging
the speaker of the House not to sabotage the bailout bill. The crash
of falling banks made the earth tremble. The Republican presidential
candidate suspended his campaign to deal with the crisis. And amid all
this, the Democrats in Congress managed to find time to slip language
into the bailout legislation that would provide a dandy little slush
fund for ACORN.

ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform
Now, a busy hive of left-wing agitation and "direct action" that
claims chapters in 50 cities and 100,000 dues-paying members. ACORN is
where Sixties leftovers who couldn't get tenure at universities wound
up. That the bill-writing Democrats remembered their pet clients
during such an emergency speaks volumes. This attempted gift to ACORN
(stripped out of the bill after outraged howls from Republicans)
demonstrates how little Democrats understand about what caused the
mess we're in.

ACORN does many things under the umbrella of "community organizing."
They agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school
reform, try to unionize welfare workers (that is, those welfare
recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits) and
organize voter registration efforts (always for Democrats, of course).
Because they are on the side of righteousness and justice, they aren't
especially fastidious about their methods. In 2006, for example, ACORN
registered 1,800 new voters in Washington. The only trouble was, with
the exception of six, all of the names submitted were fake. The
secretary of state called it the "worst case of election fraud in our
state's history." As Fox News reported:

"The ACORN workers told state investigators that they went to the
Seattle public library, sat at a table and filled out the voter
registration forms. They made up names, addresses, and Social Security
numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book. One
worker said it was a lot of hard work making up all those names and
another said he would sit at home, smoke marijuana and fill out the
forms."

ACORN explained that this was an "isolated" incident, yet similar
stories have been reported in Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Colorado
-- all swing states, by the way. ACORN members have been prosecuted
for voter fraud in a number of states. (See www.rottenacorn.com.)
Their philosophy seems to be that everyone deserves the right to vote,
whether legal or illegal, living or dead.

ACORN recognized very early the opportunity presented by the Community
Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. As Stanley Kurtz has reported, ACORN
proudly touted "affirmative action" lending and pressured banks to
make subprime loans. Madeline Talbott, a Chicago ACORN leader, boasted
of "dragging banks kicking and screaming" into dubious loans. And, as
Sol Stern reported in City Journal, ACORN also found a remunerative
niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approval. "Thus we
have J.P. Morgan & Co., the legatee of the man who once symbolized for
many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly
donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN." Is this a great
country or what? As conservative community activist Robert Woodson put
it, "The same corporations that pay ransom to Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton pay ransom to ACORN."

ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing
days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people
who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists.
The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the
Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg
Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN
fellow traveler.

Now you could make the case that before 2008, well-intentioned people
were simply unaware of what their agitation on behalf of
non-credit-worthy borrowers could lead to. But now? With the whole
financial world and possibly the world economy trembling and cracking
like a cement building in an earthquake, Democrats continue to try to
fund their friends at ACORN? And, unashamed, they then trot out to the
TV cameras to declare "the party is over" for Wall Street (Nancy
Pelosi)? The party should be over for the Democrats who brought us to
this pass. If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> According to their table thats 7.8 million for Obama and 2.8 million for
> McCain.  It's obvious to me that Wall St. wants the Dems in power.  I guess
> they feel that the Dems are better for their business.  As they say, follow
> the money and you'll find the root cause of the problem.
>
> Hank
>
>
> On 9/30/08, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Brad, Ed,
>>
>> Here's a little table from the WSJ that might illustrate Brad's point.
>>
>> http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-wallpol-sort.html
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> Will Rogers often said, "There's nothing quite like money in the bank." He
>> went on to say, "I'm not so concerned about the return on my money as I am
>> about the return of my money."
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> > Ed,
>> >
>> > 1.2 Trillion dollars.  1.2 Trillion!  That's how much value the market
>> > lost yesterday. It could have easily been up by half that amount or
>> > more.  One person, a so called House leader, couldn't even get her own
>> > committee chairman behind her, then she runs her foot wide pie-hole
>> > for five minutes and look at the results.  1.2 Trillion in one day.
>> >
>> > Follow the money.  Who do the people on Wall Street primarily donate
>> > money to?  Read the constitution. Who is responsible for making laws?
>> > Why does Wall Street overwhelmingly support one party over another?
>> >
>> > 1.2 Trillion
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It was posted on this forum, "The people are not willing to allow the
>> nouveau
>> >> rich CEOs to keep their multimillion bail-out packages - the packages
>> >> designed to insulate them from the consequences of their decisions."
>> >>
>> >> It was implied that conservative Americans caused the above.  Analyze
>> the
>> >> perpetrators of the alleged acts.   There were two principle categories.
>> >>
>> >> There were those employed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  Were those
>> >> culprits conservatives or even employed by conservative thinking boards?
>> >> No, look at Raines and Johnson.  Raines was the favorite of the
>> California
>> >> Marxist and National Democrat, Maxine Waters.  Johnson was a fellow
>> traveler
>> >> of Barack Obama and even was on his Vice Presidential search committee!
>> >> What happens to their organizations under their watch?  The poster
>> continues
>> >> to espouse lies.
>> >>
>> >> The second category is the business executives being employed by major
>> >> corporations.  These executives are employed by a board of
>> directors.  Often
>> >> they are chairman of the board, i.e., the boss.  The board members are
>> often
>> >> anointed by them.  That is insider abuse of position.  I am sure that
>> many
>> >> lawsuits will follow.  Breach of fiduciary duty by those culprits will
>> by
>> >> exposed.  Maybe appropriate legislation will be enacted demanding
>> separation
>> >> of those positions in publically held companies.
>> >>
>> >> Those ethical abuses are not caused by conservatives.  They apparently
>> are
>> >> tolerated by National Democrats and Rockefeller Republicans [aka
>> NeoMarxist]
>> >> under all kinds of slick talk and dubious reasoning.  But how often does
>> >> that reasoning ask for good moral judgement?
>> >>
>> >> Socialism and Marxism are not a good answer.  Just look at the Marxist
>> >> influence on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  Insiders appointed and
>> anointed by
>> >> Marxist screwed Americans as fast as they could.
>> >>
>> >> The failure was lack or no oversight.  Conservatives do not oppose
>> having a
>> >> Sheriff.  The Sheriff must not be controlled by fox nor must he enforce
>> the
>> >> foxes agenda.  The poster of these remarks fails to properly analyze the
>> >> situation and spouts lies and misstatements as facts.  He sounds like
>> Maxine
>> >> Waters and other Marxists.
>> >>
>> >> Failure of ethical conduct is thus well demonstrated under socialist
>> >> programs.  It will not be fixed by more socialist programs causing more
>> >> opportunity for more misconduct.
>> >>
>> >> Ed K
>> >> Greenville, SC, USA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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