[Rhodes22-list] New Joint of Deck and Hull from originator
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rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Fri Feb 6 09:04:16 EST 2015
Chuy,
I'm jumping back into this discussion one last time. I'm not a marine
engineer, but have built/rebuilt many boats over the past fifty years. Unless
you are building a hull out of steel or concrete, they are going to flex. I
would guess that even steel or concrete can flex under certain
circumstances. The hull to deck joint of the R22 flexes because of the many varied
forces applied to it by the mast, rigging and wave action. Epoxy or fiber
glassing the joint will remove the ability of the joint to flex. In fact, I
would be willing to bet that over a very short period of time you will find
that it will crack and pulverize due to the previously mentioned forces
working against it. It would be a monumental chore to separate the joint enough
to thoroughly clean it AND remove the gel coat for best adhesion. As I have
previously stated, it does not bond well with gel coat. The process to
fiberglass the joint would be incredibly labor intensive and in my opinion a
waste of time and resources. Why would you want to do this when a very simple
and time tested solution has already been put forth on the list. The
problems older hulls are experiencing with the joint are due to improper use of
materials during original construction. In short, adhesives/caulking have
come a long way in forty some years. The one part polyethylene products have
a life expectancy of fifteen years with direct exposure to UV rays from
the sun. I wonder how long they will last in a covered joint application.
Good luck with whatever you do, but remember, removing and repairing a
failed fiber glassed joint might be more than anyone would want to undertake,
even Mr. Casey.
Rummy
In a message dated 2/6/2015 1:14:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
Hi ALL ,
I received my special anniversary issue of Sail Magazine early in the week
but did not have time to read it., Volume 46 Number 2 February 2015.
Tonight I open it to the table of contents and guess what one of the articles
was about? Page 60, "Sealed up Tight When is comes to securing the hull to
deck, which method is best?" by Don Casey.
The author states "Boat builders are increasingly relying on high-strength
methacrylate adhesives to fuse the hull to the deck into a single, leak
proof component, in some cases omitting mechanical fasteners all together".
Further he states that this process is expansive so some builders use
flexible adhesives to bond the deck and hull, like 5200. He goes on and states
that repairs on the joint are not treated as two halves, since there is no
reason to. In most cases the deck to hull repair is done without a joint
in the damaged area.
The article is very well written and easy to follow. He explains the
different hull to deck joints used. Their strengths and weaknesses and the
reason to for their use.
After reading the article, I think that I most of my ideas with a few
minor adjustments.
Thanks for all your input.
Chuy
AfterMath 1987
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